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	<title>Comments on: Negative Reviews &#8211; Would You Like to See Them?</title>
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		<title>By: Misha</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3319</link>
		<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Paypal said they don&#039;t refund money for digital goods. And the thing is not 7 dollars, the thing&#039;s the overall ugly feeling. The idea is to have response. Even an ugly one is better than no response at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Paypal said they don&#8217;t refund money for digital goods. And the thing is not 7 dollars, the thing&#8217;s the overall ugly feeling. The idea is to have response. Even an ugly one is better than no response at all.</p>
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		<title>By: vRozenSch00n</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>vRozenSch00n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hosting is a very-very tough business. One bad mistake and you&#039;re out of the field, and yet there always new players in the market. Some have good technical, managerial and marketing skills with adequate capital, some only have technical skill with limited capital no managerial or marketing skill but some are newbies who&#039;s trying to make extra money and some are just script kiddies who does not know what they are really doing. 
It does not matter how big or small the company is, but I believe that the most important thing is good honest communication between the customer and provider to make things right. 
Aside of dirty competition technique, most negative and bad reviews are outcome of an unresolved communication. From the best of my knowing, many customers sticks for a long time with a provider (even if it sucks) because of good communication and PR from the provider.
To me, LowEndBox and the community here has been very helpful in passing new information. Thanks to you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosting is a very-very tough business. One bad mistake and you&#8217;re out of the field, and yet there always new players in the market. Some have good technical, managerial and marketing skills with adequate capital, some only have technical skill with limited capital no managerial or marketing skill but some are newbies who&#8217;s trying to make extra money and some are just script kiddies who does not know what they are really doing.<br />
It does not matter how big or small the company is, but I believe that the most important thing is good honest communication between the customer and provider to make things right.<br />
Aside of dirty competition technique, most negative and bad reviews are outcome of an unresolved communication. From the best of my knowing, many customers sticks for a long time with a provider (even if it sucks) because of good communication and PR from the provider.<br />
To me, LowEndBox and the community here has been very helpful in passing new information. Thanks to you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: LowEndAdmin</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3316</link>
		<dc:creator>LowEndAdmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. At the end it&#039;s the lawyer that wins and pockets all the fees.

Well. Thanks to all who have contributed the discussion and I have already decided. Honest review is a MUST, and I probably won&#039;t touch negative reviews because I can see how much it hurts the provider from some of the idiotic reviews on WHT. Although when I detected something fishy or experienced something bad with the setup it&#039;s usually the case (damn I am trying to explain that I am not the average WHT whiner). I might drop a hint here and there, but won&#039;t do a full on bad publicity on incompetent providers -- except if they are really scammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. At the end it&#8217;s the lawyer that wins and pockets all the fees.</p>
<p>Well. Thanks to all who have contributed the discussion and I have already decided. Honest review is a MUST, and I probably won&#8217;t touch negative reviews because I can see how much it hurts the provider from some of the idiotic reviews on WHT. Although when I detected something fishy or experienced something bad with the setup it&#8217;s usually the case (damn I am trying to explain that I am not the average WHT whiner). I might drop a hint here and there, but won&#8217;t do a full on bad publicity on incompetent providers &#8212; except if they are really scammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Hintswen</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3315</link>
		<dc:creator>Hintswen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go on sue them. Pay $$$ in legal fees just for the sake of $7. Better yet, fail at it and then they will sue you for $$$ in legal fees. Fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go on sue them. Pay $$$ in legal fees just for the sake of $7. Better yet, fail at it and then they will sue you for $$$ in legal fees. Fun.</p>
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		<title>By: drmike</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>drmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Paypal gives you back the money, I wouldn&#039;t worry about it.  I don&#039;t think a judge would take kindly with a lawsuit for seven bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Paypal gives you back the money, I wouldn&#8217;t worry about it.  I don&#8217;t think a judge would take kindly with a lawsuit for seven bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Misha</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3308</link>
		<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I would like to write a negative review about NeoSurge (http://www.neosurge.com/).

I have signed up and payed first invoice at 30.12.2009. Since then I didn&#039;t get the inital mail letter with connecting details. I right away opened a ticket in their ticket system (i did have an access to the web interface control panel. However, even that I could get the root password and an IP address to connect via ssh, it didn&#039;t work, and I wrote about it too. No response. 
I&#039;ve wrote more and still got no response, not with email, not through the web interface.
Then I&#039;ve wrote them that I would like to cancel the service and got no response again.
Then I&#039;ve opened an issue with paypal. And even then they didn&#039;t show any response, even in the paypal resolution center.
They took 7 dollars just for nothing and didn&#039;t find any time to explain what happened. 
I&#039;ve checked my spam directory on the gmail mailbox and letters didn&#039;t get there.
If I would live in US I would definitely try to sue them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I would like to write a negative review about NeoSurge (<a href="http://www.neosurge.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.neosurge.com/</a>).</p>
<p>I have signed up and payed first invoice at 30.12.2009. Since then I didn&#8217;t get the inital mail letter with connecting details. I right away opened a ticket in their ticket system (i did have an access to the web interface control panel. However, even that I could get the root password and an IP address to connect via ssh, it didn&#8217;t work, and I wrote about it too. No response.<br />
I&#8217;ve wrote more and still got no response, not with email, not through the web interface.<br />
Then I&#8217;ve wrote them that I would like to cancel the service and got no response again.<br />
Then I&#8217;ve opened an issue with paypal. And even then they didn&#8217;t show any response, even in the paypal resolution center.<br />
They took 7 dollars just for nothing and didn&#8217;t find any time to explain what happened.<br />
I&#8217;ve checked my spam directory on the gmail mailbox and letters didn&#8217;t get there.<br />
If I would live in US I would definitely try to sue them.</p>
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		<title>By: vRozenSch00n</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3281</link>
		<dc:creator>vRozenSch00n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to read good reviews but when its time to choose a provider bad reviews might be as important as our base to make a decision. 

A bad review once saved me from choosing a bad provider. Just 2 months after I decided not to choose the provider to host my site(s), when I check back the site, it is no longer active and the domain name is parked. 

I agree with Webmister that the most important is an honest review, and I am happy that there are still honest reviewers who&#039;s willing to take the risk of being honest.

Thanks LowEndBox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to read good reviews but when its time to choose a provider bad reviews might be as important as our base to make a decision. </p>
<p>A bad review once saved me from choosing a bad provider. Just 2 months after I decided not to choose the provider to host my site(s), when I check back the site, it is no longer active and the domain name is parked. </p>
<p>I agree with Webmister that the most important is an honest review, and I am happy that there are still honest reviewers who&#8217;s willing to take the risk of being honest.</p>
<p>Thanks LowEndBox</p>
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		<title>By: Webmister</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3215</link>
		<dc:creator>Webmister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without being disrespectful to the owner or community of this blog, which I most value and always rely upon as a good source for the low end VPS market, I really must say that NO I do not want negative reviews... I just want HONEST reviews -- and it really shouldn&#039;t be a question whether or not to post honest reviews.

If the provider is dodgy, has hidden usage restricting settings or just plain sucks I do want to know it. That is called HONESTY not really negativity.

I do know this is conservative way of saying the exact same thing, with good reason to be conservative.
Believe me when I say that I do know how hard it can be for anyone to be honest and do a negative review. Our reputation can be slandered, sour-grapes of the reviewees do tend to stay for long, suddenly we are on a PR war that no one can benefit from and our readers count along with the much needed site income starts to decline as we are more and more attacked by spam, constant DDoS and struggle to stay afloat across the board.
That is the price of honesty and I am glad the Admin is willing to extend his commitment to staying honest.

Keep up the good work. Bring on those honest reviews! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without being disrespectful to the owner or community of this blog, which I most value and always rely upon as a good source for the low end VPS market, I really must say that NO I do not want negative reviews&#8230; I just want HONEST reviews &#8212; and it really shouldn&#8217;t be a question whether or not to post honest reviews.</p>
<p>If the provider is dodgy, has hidden usage restricting settings or just plain sucks I do want to know it. That is called HONESTY not really negativity.</p>
<p>I do know this is conservative way of saying the exact same thing, with good reason to be conservative.<br />
Believe me when I say that I do know how hard it can be for anyone to be honest and do a negative review. Our reputation can be slandered, sour-grapes of the reviewees do tend to stay for long, suddenly we are on a PR war that no one can benefit from and our readers count along with the much needed site income starts to decline as we are more and more attacked by spam, constant DDoS and struggle to stay afloat across the board.<br />
That is the price of honesty and I am glad the Admin is willing to extend his commitment to staying honest.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work. Bring on those honest reviews! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Drakeor</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3214</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakeor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see the good and the bad as well.
But yes, I&#039;d get the host&#039;s side of the story too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see the good and the bad as well.<br />
But yes, I&#8217;d get the host&#8217;s side of the story too.</p>
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		<title>By: bark</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3204</link>
		<dc:creator>bark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for it too!
That would be great also to put a record of individual VPS Services &amp; Installation in here:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for it too!<br />
That would be great also to put a record of individual VPS Services &amp; Installation in here:)</p>
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		<title>By: Hintswen</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3177</link>
		<dc:creator>Hintswen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like reading both the good and bad reviews, although it would be nice if there was a easy way to distinguish between the two (eg. red headline instead of green)  as I sometimes just look the the plan details rather than reading the full post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like reading both the good and bad reviews, although it would be nice if there was a easy way to distinguish between the two (eg. red headline instead of green)  as I sometimes just look the the plan details rather than reading the full post.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3172</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for it!</p>
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		<title>By: battletux</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3155</link>
		<dc:creator>battletux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be a very good idea to post reviews of less than seller providers, but I agree that there needs to be some sort of testing framework that can be applied to all the reviews. This would ensure that no-one can point the finger and say a certain review was biasd (not that they ever are here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be a very good idea to post reviews of less than seller providers, but I agree that there needs to be some sort of testing framework that can be applied to all the reviews. This would ensure that no-one can point the finger and say a certain review was biasd (not that they ever are here).</p>
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		<title>By: snyper</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>snyper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi LEB,

Been using this site for a long time now and I think you should not do any negatively based reviews. Harbouring such pages/information only creates a whirlpool/whingepool of bad and good feelings and gets all mixed up. i like LEB the way it is :) the negative reviews are itself automagically done via comments by users (i.e. see boxvps review).

you might want to update reviews of hosts that you find unreliable, scrupulous etc. where you have reviewd them. a warning of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi LEB,</p>
<p>Been using this site for a long time now and I think you should not do any negatively based reviews. Harbouring such pages/information only creates a whirlpool/whingepool of bad and good feelings and gets all mixed up. i like LEB the way it is :) the negative reviews are itself automagically done via comments by users (i.e. see boxvps review).</p>
<p>you might want to update reviews of hosts that you find unreliable, scrupulous etc. where you have reviewd them. a warning of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: drmike</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3133</link>
		<dc:creator>drmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you&#039;re planning on doing negative reviews, I think you should give the host a chance to respond.  At least to defend themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you&#8217;re planning on doing negative reviews, I think you should give the host a chance to respond.  At least to defend themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: LowEndAdmin</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3124</link>
		<dc:creator>LowEndAdmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed I am also sick of whinge and complains on WHT that are clearly users&#039; fault -- especially on the low end side where users&#039; expectation and the actual delivered product can wildly vary.

Still. Some providers are just crap. Period. I am usually a tolerant user that can put up with hosting provider&#039;s incompetency -- but if even after I tested and found the business dodgy, maybe someone would like to know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed I am also sick of whinge and complains on WHT that are clearly users&#8217; fault &#8212; especially on the low end side where users&#8217; expectation and the actual delivered product can wildly vary.</p>
<p>Still. Some providers are just crap. Period. I am usually a tolerant user that can put up with hosting provider&#8217;s incompetency &#8212; but if even after I tested and found the business dodgy, maybe someone would like to know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: innya</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3115</link>
		<dc:creator>innya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I forgot something. Instead of negative reviews, LEB should do only positive or good review. Because, for (-) you can get a lot everyone can complain about anything, for (+) you can get a few good one. 
Unless, you want to make LEB&#039;s Dodgy list and Yes another reseller list:). 
So, LEB will have positive reviews and LEB Dodgy list for reference for any one looking for budget vps.

If you want to do that, LEB should allow to input users opinion on their tested host providers a week before posting. Base on the users input and LEB ADMIN review, grade the good and best host providers of current quarter and annual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I forgot something. Instead of negative reviews, LEB should do only positive or good review. Because, for (-) you can get a lot everyone can complain about anything, for (+) you can get a few good one.<br />
Unless, you want to make LEB&#8217;s Dodgy list and Yes another reseller list:).<br />
So, LEB will have positive reviews and LEB Dodgy list for reference for any one looking for budget vps.</p>
<p>If you want to do that, LEB should allow to input users opinion on their tested host providers a week before posting. Base on the users input and LEB ADMIN review, grade the good and best host providers of current quarter and annual.</p>
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		<title>By: innya</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3114</link>
		<dc:creator>innya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we already have good review on the vps host provider when lowendbox posts the provider in here.
  
What we need in here is two reports or reviews(Per, my opinion).
(1) Quarterly review or report cards: 
    that should be input from users and tester of their vps experience. We should include the vps host listed in that quarter and progress or continue report of any good vps that previously listed on LEB.

(2). Annual review and report cards:
It should be like or similar to the one we have for the &quot;What’s Your Best Low End Box Experience in 2009?&quot;. 

So, LEB is not only post Low End VPS providers, LEB also grade then for their commitment and honesty {to prevent users from seasonal vps provider :)}. Of-course quality should be included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we already have good review on the vps host provider when lowendbox posts the provider in here.</p>
<p>What we need in here is two reports or reviews(Per, my opinion).<br />
(1) Quarterly review or report cards:<br />
    that should be input from users and tester of their vps experience. We should include the vps host listed in that quarter and progress or continue report of any good vps that previously listed on LEB.</p>
<p>(2). Annual review and report cards:<br />
It should be like or similar to the one we have for the &#8220;What’s Your Best Low End Box Experience in 2009?&#8221;. </p>
<p>So, LEB is not only post Low End VPS providers, LEB also grade then for their commitment and honesty {to prevent users from seasonal vps provider :)}. Of-course quality should be included.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Patterson</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3113</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Negative reviews? Yes, fully support this. Will at least keep some of the providers honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Negative reviews? Yes, fully support this. Will at least keep some of the providers honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Edward Horner</title>
		<link>http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/negative-reviews-would-you-like-to-see-them/#comment-3112</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Edward Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think negative reviews are an important part of the ecosystem. I&#039;ve had a few less than ideal interactions with low end providers.

That&#039;s really unfortunate about your previous experience but, sadly, not surprising. Perhaps you should post any communications from vendors or describe any actions they take. This may actually be the most useful information. If I knew a vendor contacted someone who wasn&#039;t satisfied and worked with them to correct the issues, I would definitely want to do business with them. If I knew a vendor attempted to silence their critics, I definitely would not want to do business with them, regardless of what their product was.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s really unfortunate about your previous experience but, sadly, not surprising. Perhaps you should post any communications from vendors or describe any actions they take. This may actually be the most useful information. If I knew a vendor contacted someone who wasn&#8217;t satisfied and worked with them to correct the issues, I would definitely want to do business with them. If I knew a vendor attempted to silence their critics, I definitely would not want to do business with them, regardless of what their product was.</p>
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